1. 18:19 14th Oct 2014

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Thanks for the guess, Alfred Kinsey, but…
6 Outdated Myths Everyone Still Believes About Homosexuality

#6. Myth: We Know How Many Gay People There Are
Nobody has any clue. That 10 percent figure [estimated by Kinsey] might actually be as low as 2 percent, or as high as 20 percent. Polls keep being conducted, and the only thing they’ve determined so far is we have no fucking idea. The problem is obvious — we’re relying on surveys in an era when it’s still not OK to be gay in huge swaths of America, let alone the rest of the world (for example, if we went purely by self-reporting, there has been only one gay player in the 94 years the NFL has existed). So in those surveys, gays could hide their sexual orientation, refuse to answer the question, or simply not know the answer themselves yet — it’s not like it’s a binary question (as Kinsey himself could have told you).

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No, Cracked, “pansexuality” is not “being attracted to people not genders”. Pansexuality is essentially a rephrasing of bisexuality that makes a special point to include people who don’t identify as either male or female. The term you’re looking for is “gender blind”, which is something bisexuals as well as pansexuals can be. 

    cracked:

    Thanks for the guess, Alfred Kinsey, but…

    6 Outdated Myths Everyone Still Believes About Homosexuality

    #6. Myth: We Know How Many Gay People There Are

    Nobody has any clue. That 10 percent figure [estimated by Kinsey] might actually be as low as 2 percent, or as high as 20 percent. Polls keep being conducted, and the only thing they’ve determined so far is we have no fucking idea. The problem is obvious — we’re relying on surveys in an era when it’s still not OK to be gay in huge swaths of America, let alone the rest of the world (for example, if we went purely by self-reporting, there has been only one gay player in the 94 years the NFL has existed). So in those surveys, gays could hide their sexual orientation, refuse to answer the question, or simply not know the answer themselves yet — it’s not like it’s a binary question (as Kinsey himself could have told you).

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    No, Cracked, “pansexuality” is not “being attracted to people not genders”. Pansexuality is essentially a rephrasing of bisexuality that makes a special point to include people who don’t identify as either male or female. The term you’re looking for is “gender blind”, which is something bisexuals as well as pansexuals can be. 

     
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sidneyia:

incorrectusage:

Oh boy.
Oh boy. I was told to check out one of the mods of shitrichcollegekids say (specifically, queercomrade) and oh boy. 
I’m going to do my best here. 
1. “Not a choice” is an appeal to…. the cisheteropatriarchy? I’m sorry, but what? Let us forge ahead.
2. Ah. See, it’s a way of explaining that we exist and that we didn’t choose to be gay, we didn’t choose to be trans, it’s just something we’re inborn with, like brown eyes or blue. This statement is as inherently nonsensical as saying “saying you were born colorblind implies that being colorblind is a lesser way of existence”. It’s a neutral statement of fact, not a judgement. Hello my name is Sausage I was born gay and just a touch under five pounds. You’re going to need to explain why someone saying they were born this way is an apology.
3. Again with the people using liberal as a pejorative. My gosh. No one is able to explain why it is, since “liberal” is a massive political umbrella under which a lot of mindsets fall, some more or less radical than others.
4. Saying you were born this way only encourages… assimilation? I- what? How? If you’re going to make that claim, back it up. Also, back up why someone assimilating is a bad thing. (Not being forced to, mind, someone like me who chooses to just be quiet and maybe marry and not be Queer and Here but just kind of live a boring life.)
5. We agree it’s not a lesser way of living.
6. Oh. Oh nonconformance. Oh. So they think that being trans or queer is about being a ~nonconformist~. So, once again, we’re in the trap of LGBT=emos, Cishets=preps. 
So all in all they seem to truly believe being LGBT is a choice, and a radical nonconformist one at that, instead of a neutral inborn trait. Beyond that, they have no evidence nor logic to back up their claims. 
Seriously, explain things, don’t expect people to simply parrot something you said to them. 
"It’s a choice to be LGBT, why can’t you just be normal?" Claiming that it is a choice and that it is nonconformist/radical is essentially giving credit to that statement and validating it as a True Thing to say, as opposed to nonsensical b.s. spouted at me.
So, to the person who asked me to check them out: there you go, there’s a few thoughts. I’m not really going to engage them in any sort of discussion because based on previous experiences with this sort of radical queer theorist, it never goes well and I need to just break out the SRAs. 
Tagging and bracing for impact. I’ve already said the URL in the post so it’s already in the tag so may as well archive this.

Dude I’ve had to hide so many people on Facebook for posting “gay is a choice” bullshit, it’s not even funny. Queer is a choice because that’s a political label. Gay/straight/bi/ace are not choices, those are neutral, amoral biological variations within the population. Biology is not a conspiracy, I promise. 

They make the jump to “we did not choose this” to “I know being LGBTQ is bad but we didn’t choose it so don’t blame us.” That kind of jump is a strawman. Similar to someone with a disability that makes it hard to function in society’s constraints, it is not inherently BAD to have that disability, but it is not something the chose either. And acknowledging that is not pandering.Further, there is actual scientific evidence that there are at least genetic and biological pre-dispositions to this, that it’s not a choice.And finally, there’s the idea that assimilation—wanting to get married, wanting kids, wanting to be stealth—all of that means participating in an oppressive society, that your personal life choices automatically perpetuate all of this other mess. And I find that to simply be untrue. It is possible to continue to be critical of a framework, acknowledge that it doesn’t work for everyone, etc., while still wanting to be in a long-term monogamous partnership, for example. Even being a femme lesbian interested in predominantly butch lesbians, your free thought is not expunged, you can still be critical of butch/femme or masc/fem dichotomies within lesbian and gay culture respectively without having to Politcally Declare Your Life in opposition to all of your preferences. Like theanon said, you can not want to participate in the patriarchy without becoming a political lesbian. Assimilation becomes an issue when it’s posited as the be-all, end-all of the activism. So gay pride where all the companies sponsor the right for gay cis white men to marry other gay cis white men and have 2.5 kids, and that’s the ONLY acceptable narrative presented, that is not okay. But you can’t say you support LGBTQ people only when they agree with you, if you don’t also support those with 2.5 kids, then you don’t support LGBTQ liberation. Liberation means no niche of society is barred from people, and so the niches that are “radical enough” are not all the niches. Also that last sentence is just whining about being the most non-conforming—that last sentence is goths/preps. Get over yourself, we have more pressing matters than letting privileged kids be the most Unapologetically Nonconformist as they want. Let’s get actual human rights first for people who actually don’t have them.

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    sidneyia:

    incorrectusage:

    Oh boy.

    Oh boy. I was told to check out one of the mods of shitrichcollegekids say (specifically, queercomrade) and oh boy. 

    I’m going to do my best here. 

    1. “Not a choice” is an appeal to…. the cisheteropatriarchy? I’m sorry, but what? Let us forge ahead.

    2. Ah. See, it’s a way of explaining that we exist and that we didn’t choose to be gay, we didn’t choose to be trans, it’s just something we’re inborn with, like brown eyes or blue. This statement is as inherently nonsensical as saying “saying you were born colorblind implies that being colorblind is a lesser way of existence”. It’s a neutral statement of fact, not a judgement. Hello my name is Sausage I was born gay and just a touch under five pounds. You’re going to need to explain why someone saying they were born this way is an apology.

    3. Again with the people using liberal as a pejorative. My gosh. No one is able to explain why it is, since “liberal” is a massive political umbrella under which a lot of mindsets fall, some more or less radical than others.

    4. Saying you were born this way only encourages… assimilation? I- what? How? If you’re going to make that claim, back it up. Also, back up why someone assimilating is a bad thing. (Not being forced to, mind, someone like me who chooses to just be quiet and maybe marry and not be Queer and Here but just kind of live a boring life.)

    5. We agree it’s not a lesser way of living.

    6. Oh. Oh nonconformance. Oh. So they think that being trans or queer is about being a ~nonconformist~. So, once again, we’re in the trap of LGBT=emos, Cishets=preps. 

    So all in all they seem to truly believe being LGBT is a choice, and a radical nonconformist one at that, instead of a neutral inborn trait. Beyond that, they have no evidence nor logic to back up their claims. 

    Seriously, explain things, don’t expect people to simply parrot something you said to them. 

    "It’s a choice to be LGBT, why can’t you just be normal?" Claiming that it is a choice and that it is nonconformist/radical is essentially giving credit to that statement and validating it as a True Thing to say, as opposed to nonsensical b.s. spouted at me.

    So, to the person who asked me to check them out: there you go, there’s a few thoughts. I’m not really going to engage them in any sort of discussion because based on previous experiences with this sort of radical queer theorist, it never goes well and I need to just break out the SRAs. 

    Tagging and bracing for impact. I’ve already said the URL in the post so it’s already in the tag so may as well archive this.

    Dude I’ve had to hide so many people on Facebook for posting “gay is a choice” bullshit, it’s not even funny. Queer is a choice because that’s a political label. Gay/straight/bi/ace are not choices, those are neutral, amoral biological variations within the population. Biology is not a conspiracy, I promise. 

    They make the jump to “we did not choose this” to “I know being LGBTQ is bad but we didn’t choose it so don’t blame us.” That kind of jump is a strawman. Similar to someone with a disability that makes it hard to function in society’s constraints, it is not inherently BAD to have that disability, but it is not something the chose either. And acknowledging that is not pandering.

    Further, there is actual scientific evidence that there are at least genetic and biological pre-dispositions to this, that it’s not a choice.

    And finally, there’s the idea that assimilation—wanting to get married, wanting kids, wanting to be stealth—all of that means participating in an oppressive society, that your personal life choices automatically perpetuate all of this other mess. And I find that to simply be untrue. It is possible to continue to be critical of a framework, acknowledge that it doesn’t work for everyone, etc., while still wanting to be in a long-term monogamous partnership, for example. Even being a femme lesbian interested in predominantly butch lesbians, your free thought is not expunged, you can still be critical of butch/femme or masc/fem dichotomies within lesbian and gay culture respectively without having to Politcally Declare Your Life in opposition to all of your preferences. Like theanon said, you can not want to participate in the patriarchy without becoming a political lesbian.

    Assimilation becomes an issue when it’s posited as the be-all, end-all of the activism. So gay pride where all the companies sponsor the right for gay cis white men to marry other gay cis white men and have 2.5 kids, and that’s the ONLY acceptable narrative presented, that is not okay. But you can’t say you support LGBTQ people only when they agree with you, if you don’t also support those with 2.5 kids, then you don’t support LGBTQ liberation. Liberation means no niche of society is barred from people, and so the niches that are “radical enough” are not all the niches.

    Also that last sentence is just whining about being the most non-conforming—that last sentence is goths/preps. Get over yourself, we have more pressing matters than letting privileged kids be the most Unapologetically Nonconformist as they want. Let’s get actual human rights first for people who actually don’t have them.

     
  3. incorrectusage:

    So I’m going to lay this down once and for all and tag it 101 and just link people cause I forgot who mentioned it but someone said we’re just spinnin’ our wheels here so I’m gonna go ahead and make a Hardline Stance post on my stances on things and edit it as needed. Let’s go go power rangers here.

    • Space, bunny, cloud, fae, Karkat Vantas etc are not genders. 
    • Male, female, non-binary are.
    • Your options on pronouns are he, she or they, until such a time as the English language gets a better gender neutral pronoun in wide use.
    • You cannot claim a label you do not fit. See: trans, when you lack dysphoria. See: gay, when you date the opposite gender. See: anything when you are not that thing.
    • Being trans is a medical condition with no cure but a pretty good treatment that has had a fairly good success rate in increasing QOL. 
    • Demisexual is not a sexuality. 
    • Nor is grey-ace.
    • Nor is any ace-spectrum. You’re asexual or you’re not end of story case closed. 
    • Fruit is fucking disgusting whoever invented fruit needs a stern talking-to. 
    • Oppression is not something you can use as a bludgeon to prove you’re the “right one” in the argument. 
    • You cannot rack up oppression points.
    • One conversation cannot be every conversation. If X thing is being talked about and you hop in and say well Y thing happens to!!! Or X thing also happens to [unrelated group] then you are derailing at best and a troll at worst.
    • Never tell someone to kill themselves.
    • Never threaten harm/rape/etc on someone, why do I have to say this as a thing. 
    • Language is a tool to make communication clear and efficient. Inventing new words every other day is the literal opposite of that. 
    • Over-labeling is horrible why would you do that. Everything you think is not a new label. Every facet of your being is not a label. You do not have to have a label for every nook and cranny of your being.
    • Gender roles are bullshit.
    • Saying you’re NB because you “don’t feel like a girl” (or boy) is similarly terrible. What does feeling like a girl mean? No one has ever answered that. 
    • No work is better than any other work, all work deserves a living wage.
    • Women are systematically oppressed. Men are not on the scale women are.
    • Women need to be prioritized in fixing gender inequality. 
    • If you honestly need to leap in and say “x thing happens to men too!” see above on derailing.
    • The MRM is a hate movement and MRAs are hate and fear mongers. 

    agree w/ everything except fruit

     
  4. 14:52

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    Reblogged from birdsy-purplefishes

    Tags: the simslgbt

    partysoft:

    thatgreenevening:

    The Sims ended up with same-sex relationship support thanks almost entirely to gay programmer Patrick J. Barrett III.

    “At the time, it wasn’t considered ‘normal’ to be gay or lesbian,” [Barrett] said. “Some even saw it as dangerous. But in The Sims it was normal and safe to be a gay person. It was the first time we could play a game and be free to see ourselves represented within. It was a magical moment when my first same-sex Sims coupled kissed. I still sometimes wonder how in the world I got away with it.”

    I didn’t know that! Awesome!

    My Sims always had same-sex relationships b/c there was no chance for an accidental baby.

     
  5. Anonymous said: the irony is that nobody is trying to claim bi for movie stars like Angelina Jolie or Megan Fox who have guess what actually said they're into women. nope always the lesbians they're trying to claim

    incorrectusage:

    H-o-m-o-p-h-o-b-i-a! Where’s my ~friendly reminder~ posts about Jolie being bisexual??? Hmmm?

     
  6. incorrectusage:

    In less giffy terms: using a meaningless label only waters down ACTUAL LGBT+ labels and the importance of them, and then we don’t get taken seriously cause like “WELL SOME PEOPLE HONESTLY THINK THAT “NEED TO FEEL SAFE” IS A SEXUAL ORIENTATION HARR HARR”“. Or, worse yet, “well of course asexuals have sex this one person who is ace-umbrella (ughhh) has sex with her boyfriend all the time!

    So no. It’s not innocuous. It gets use laughed at and not taken seriously.

    You need to stop, because you are being disrespectful to the LGBT+ community. Especially to the asexual community. I realize you’re young and you’re scared because it seems like a hell of a lot of people are just having sex left right and center but just because you need a bond doesn’t mean you’re anything but a person who needs to be bonded with someone before you’re comfy having sex. It’s not uncommon; it’s not it’s own distinct label. It’s a form of being a sexual person.

    Stop.

     
  7. 13:56 2nd May 2014

    Notes: 438

    Reblogged from recoveringsjw

    Tags: lgbtmarriage equality

    Assimilation into the ruling class does not undo the structures that oppress people. For me, gay marriage is a distraction from issues that unite queer people with other marginalized folks. Dealing with the way that homophobia, transphobia, sexism, ableism, impact education, health care, housing, and employment would be a more useful endeavor than symbolic songs like “Same Love.” Marriage is an institution that affords people all kinds ofn benefits in our country and for me, the question is why those benefits are only available through this one act; why can’t everybody just have what they need, regardless of whether they are married or not?
    — 

    Moya Bailey

    Contextualizing Lord Jamar, Le1f, and hip hops homophobic history

    (via quirkyblackgirls)

    I don’t think anyone is saying gay marriage is the big problem solver. And why can’t there be allowances for lgbt people to marry, job protections and hate crime laws? Isn’t demanding all lgbt people not assimilate and be radical just another sort of pressure to assimilate to a certain ideal? (via mediocrepresident)

    So sick of people talking about how marriage rights should just be available to everyone forever. Like, most of the marriage rights are around two people becoming the one legal entity. Precisely how are you going to give that to everyone? Should I be able to not be compelled to testify against someone because I say they’re my bff? Do I then have the same responsibilities for their debts as a married couple would? Marriage isn’t about this special status that is hoarded by some people, it’s about legal contracts and commitments.

    I also hate people saying that marriage is assimilation. Fuck you, I can have my own lesbian existence and get married.

    (via recoveringsjw)

    Isn’t demanding all lgbt people not assimilate and be radical just another sort of pressure to assimilate to a certain ideal?”

    BOOM.

    (Source: moyazb)

     
  8. 13:06 23rd Mar 2014

    Notes: 47

    Reblogged from explosives-b

    Tags: lgbt

    *prints this out and staples it to the forehead of every 3edgy college acquaintance of mine who has ever griped that marriage equality is for the rich gays only* 

     
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If you can’t acknowledge that sexuality can be a choice, then I don’t think you should be a supporter of the LGBTQA* community. 
Maybe this is just me, but I don’t like to view Bi/Homosexuality as a mental disorder. And “Born this way” believers are literally the same as conservative/Republicans that know little about what they’re talking about. 
Scientifically, Male homosexuality is classified as an absence in testosterone, while female homosexuality is, you guessed it, an absence in estrogen. I refuse to believe having a little extra hair on your chest or fuller eyelashes makes you straight. I also refuse to believe that not looking “Feminine” or “masculine” makes you homosexual. 
Many, MANY members of the queer community themselves have stated that they think homosexuality is a choice for some people, or they themselves have chosen to be queer. 
And, this isn’t like the hair color you were born with, this is something about yourself that you can change. It’s like your favorite color or your favorite food, when you’ve only eaten Mac and cheese your whole life, you might fall in love with PB&J, or you might try PB&J, and decide you like Mac and Cheese better. Most people start life thinking that they’re straight because most people are and we’re taught humans reproduce heterosexually and we, as humans, are expected to reproduce. It’s not until you learn about more sexual identities that you scan through and pick one you like. 
It’s also a lot easier, in my opinion, to view being queer as a choice. It’s easier to convince a bigot that this was your choice and what makes you happy, then you were born like that. I think the “born this way” mentality is the reason things like straight camps exist: They believe something is wrong and can be fixed. Unless being happy is suddenly a problem, choice mulls over so much easier. “I don’t like your decision” is a lot better than “There’s something wrong with him/her’s mental growth and some nerve/cell/whatever failed and now they’re gay” 

(DISCLAIMER this is about the LGB community, since the post is about sexuality, not gender.)
Hey if I had a choice I’d be straight let me tell you.
“Scientifically, Male homosexuality is classified as an absence in testosterone, while female homosexuality is, you guessed it, an absence in estrogen.” Okay. Okay, I can understand where this misconception is coming from, I’m in nursing school, I read the literature and I know quite a bit about the human body (and I happen to have a huge raging love for fetal development and reproductive endocrinology, you’re in luck!). But that’s not how homosexuality is classified… at all. It’s classified as an exclusive sexual and romantic attraction to the same gender. That’s. That’s all. It it theorized to be caused by lower testosterone levels in the womb (for men) or high testosterone levels in the womb (for women), with some slight masculinization/feminization of the brain. Not low estrogen levels or low testosterone levels in adult men and women. (Also, the word you’re looking for for women is ‘elevated testosterone’, not lowered estrogen. Masculinization pretty much relies on T, not an absence of E. Default human development= female. Testosterone is what’s needed to put the brakes on that and go whoa whoa whoa there friend hold on no we must be male. This is why you see feminization of varying degrees in men with low T levels, although if the low T developed in adulthood, it’s often not nearly as severe. Let’s not open up the Big Book of Intersex Conditions, however. Focus, Rezi.) All of these studies, however, are far from conclusive- the current body of evidence suggests that yes, hormones probably play some role, although it’s decidedly not the only factor in figuring out who comes into this world shooting rainbows out their ass. The human brain is a very complex organ- complex enough that even with my admittedly quite high IQ I kind of shrivel in terror at it. Understanding emotion is a ridiculously hit-or-miss science, I mean, look at how we treat actual mental illnesses. “Well, this drug might help you or it might make you worse, same with this drug, maybe therapy, maybe not, maybe ECT, maybe not,” and so on into the distance.
“Maybe this is just me, but I don’t like to view Bi/Homosexuality as a mental disorder. And “Born this way” believers are literally the same as conservative/Republicans that know little about what they’re talking about.” Just because someone is born some way doesn’t make it a mental disorder, you yourself say hair color is an inborn trait later in this post. Like, I was born with a few billion traits, some of which I can change if I force myself to, some (like homosexuality) I can’t. Not every inborn mental trait is a mental disorder. 
“I also refuse to believe that not looking “Feminine” or “masculine” makes you homosexual.” Good we agree.
“Many, MANY members of the queer community themselves have stated that they think homosexuality is a choice for some people, or they themselves have chosen to be queer.” [citation needed]
“And, this isn’t like the hair color you were born with, this is something about yourself that you can change. It’s like your favorite color or your favorite food, when you’ve only eaten Mac and cheese your whole life, you might fall in love with PB&J, or you might try PB&J, and decide you like Mac and Cheese better.” Oh, so I haven’t ‘tried’ men enough, I guess? I haven’t, what, eaten enough proverbial PB&J to decide whether or not to choose to be gay? What are the balls here? Is it the peanut butter? Am I dealing with peanut butter dicks? I mean, shit, if forcing myself to like men was as easy as my friend who forced herself to like spinach by eating raw handfuls of it, I would do it in a heartbeat. Hell, I tried something like that. 
“It’s not until you learn about more sexual identities that you scan through and pick one you like.” BOY I SURE DO LIKE SELF LOATHING, DISCRIMINATION, AND A DRASTICALLY REDUCED DATING POOL. I SURE DO LIKE NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE A BIOLOGICAL CHILD WITH MY FUTURE PARTNER (in all likelyhood). SURE IS A FUCKING BLAST.
“It’s easier to convince a bigot that this was your choice and what makes you happy, then you were born like that.” It doesn’t make me happy. It’s something I was born with. 
"“I don’t like your decision” is a lot better than “There’s something wrong with him/her’s mental growth and some nerve/cell/whatever failed and now they’re gay” Yeah, but decisions are conscious choices. I don’t make the decision to put (food metaphors!) ketchup on my mac n cheese, because I think ketchup is vile unless it’s being used as a fry dip. Someone who does put ketchup in their mac n cheese can choose not to do so. I can choose to try it (I have it’s gross.) Nothing failed to make me gay. Nothing went wrong. Something went differently from pop norm, this is true, but again, not every variation is a disorder. 
Rezi out.

“Many, MANY members of the queer community themselves have stated that…they themselves have chosen to be queer.”
Ah, okay, here we see the problem with using “queer” as an umbrella term for the whole LGBTA+ acronym. Yes, being queer is indeed a choice, because “queer” is a political label, not in itself a sexual orientation or gender identity. But we’ve elided the two so much that it’s easy to hear someone say “I choose to identify as queer” and interpret that as “I choose to be gay/lesbian/bisexual”. And I’m betting that’s where OP got this idea. 

    grimdarkthroes:

    the-unpopular-opinions:

    If you can’t acknowledge that sexuality can be a choice, then I don’t think you should be a supporter of the LGBTQA* community. 

    Maybe this is just me, but I don’t like to view Bi/Homosexuality as a mental disorder. And “Born this way” believers are literally the same as conservative/Republicans that know little about what they’re talking about. 

    Scientifically, Male homosexuality is classified as an absence in testosterone, while female homosexuality is, you guessed it, an absence in estrogen. I refuse to believe having a little extra hair on your chest or fuller eyelashes makes you straight. I also refuse to believe that not looking “Feminine” or “masculine” makes you homosexual. 

    Many, MANY members of the queer community themselves have stated that they think homosexuality is a choice for some people, or they themselves have chosen to be queer. 

    And, this isn’t like the hair color you were born with, this is something about yourself that you can change. It’s like your favorite color or your favorite food, when you’ve only eaten Mac and cheese your whole life, you might fall in love with PB&J, or you might try PB&J, and decide you like Mac and Cheese better. Most people start life thinking that they’re straight because most people are and we’re taught humans reproduce heterosexually and we, as humans, are expected to reproduce. It’s not until you learn about more sexual identities that you scan through and pick one you like. 

    It’s also a lot easier, in my opinion, to view being queer as a choice. It’s easier to convince a bigot that this was your choice and what makes you happy, then you were born like that. I think the “born this way” mentality is the reason things like straight camps exist: They believe something is wrong and can be fixed. Unless being happy is suddenly a problem, choice mulls over so much easier. “I don’t like your decision” is a lot better than “There’s something wrong with him/her’s mental growth and some nerve/cell/whatever failed and now they’re gay” 

    (DISCLAIMER this is about the LGB community, since the post is about sexuality, not gender.)

    Hey if I had a choice I’d be straight let me tell you.

    Scientifically, Male homosexuality is classified as an absence in testosterone, while female homosexuality is, you guessed it, an absence in estrogen.” Okay. Okay, I can understand where this misconception is coming from, I’m in nursing school, I read the literature and I know quite a bit about the human body (and I happen to have a huge raging love for fetal development and reproductive endocrinology, you’re in luck!). But that’s not how homosexuality is classified… at all. It’s classified as an exclusive sexual and romantic attraction to the same gender. That’s. That’s all. It it theorized to be caused by lower testosterone levels in the womb (for men) or high testosterone levels in the womb (for women), with some slight masculinization/feminization of the brain. Not low estrogen levels or low testosterone levels in adult men and women. (Also, the word you’re looking for for women is ‘elevated testosterone’, not lowered estrogen. Masculinization pretty much relies on T, not an absence of E. Default human development= female. Testosterone is what’s needed to put the brakes on that and go whoa whoa whoa there friend hold on no we must be male. This is why you see feminization of varying degrees in men with low T levels, although if the low T developed in adulthood, it’s often not nearly as severe. Let’s not open up the Big Book of Intersex Conditions, however. Focus, Rezi.) All of these studies, however, are far from conclusive- the current body of evidence suggests that yes, hormones probably play some role, although it’s decidedly not the only factor in figuring out who comes into this world shooting rainbows out their ass. The human brain is a very complex organ- complex enough that even with my admittedly quite high IQ I kind of shrivel in terror at it. Understanding emotion is a ridiculously hit-or-miss science, I mean, look at how we treat actual mental illnesses. “Well, this drug might help you or it might make you worse, same with this drug, maybe therapy, maybe not, maybe ECT, maybe not,” and so on into the distance.

    Maybe this is just me, but I don’t like to view Bi/Homosexuality as a mental disorder. And “Born this way” believers are literally the same as conservative/Republicans that know little about what they’re talking about.” Just because someone is born some way doesn’t make it a mental disorder, you yourself say hair color is an inborn trait later in this post. Like, I was born with a few billion traits, some of which I can change if I force myself to, some (like homosexuality) I can’t. Not every inborn mental trait is a mental disorder. 

    I also refuse to believe that not looking “Feminine” or “masculine” makes you homosexual.” Good we agree.

    Many, MANY members of the queer community themselves have stated that they think homosexuality is a choice for some people, or they themselves have chosen to be queer.” [citation needed]

    And, this isn’t like the hair color you were born with, this is something about yourself that you can change. It’s like your favorite color or your favorite food, when you’ve only eaten Mac and cheese your whole life, you might fall in love with PB&J, or you might try PB&J, and decide you like Mac and Cheese better.” Oh, so I haven’t ‘tried’ men enough, I guess? I haven’t, what, eaten enough proverbial PB&J to decide whether or not to choose to be gay? What are the balls here? Is it the peanut butter? Am I dealing with peanut butter dicks? I mean, shit, if forcing myself to like men was as easy as my friend who forced herself to like spinach by eating raw handfuls of it, I would do it in a heartbeat. Hell, I tried something like that. 

    It’s not until you learn about more sexual identities that you scan through and pick one you like.” BOY I SURE DO LIKE SELF LOATHING, DISCRIMINATION, AND A DRASTICALLY REDUCED DATING POOL. I SURE DO LIKE NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE A BIOLOGICAL CHILD WITH MY FUTURE PARTNER (in all likelyhood). SURE IS A FUCKING BLAST.

    It’s easier to convince a bigot that this was your choice and what makes you happy, then you were born like that.” It doesn’t make me happy. It’s something I was born with. 

    "“I don’t like your decision” is a lot better than “There’s something wrong with him/her’s mental growth and some nerve/cell/whatever failed and now they’re gay” Yeah, but decisions are conscious choices. I don’t make the decision to put (food metaphors!) ketchup on my mac n cheese, because I think ketchup is vile unless it’s being used as a fry dip. Someone who does put ketchup in their mac n cheese can choose not to do so. I can choose to try it (I have it’s gross.) Nothing failed to make me gay. Nothing went wrong. Something went differently from pop norm, this is true, but again, not every variation is a disorder. 

    Rezi out.

    Many, MANY members of the queer community themselves have stated that…they themselves have chosen to be queer.”

    Ah, okay, here we see the problem with using “queer” as an umbrella term for the whole LGBTA+ acronym. Yes, being queer is indeed a choice, because “queer” is a political label, not in itself a sexual orientation or gender identity. But we’ve elided the two so much that it’s easy to hear someone say “I choose to identify as queer” and interpret that as “I choose to be gay/lesbian/bisexual”. And I’m betting that’s where OP got this idea. 

     
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GUYS THIS IS HUGE.THIS MEANS THAT IF A SAME-SEX COUPLE LIVES IN A STATE WHERE ITS NOT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A SAME-SEX MARRIAGE THEN THEY CAN GO TO COURT AND A JUDGE WILL HAVE TO DECLARE IT OFFICIAL WITH ALL FEDERAL EFFECTS!

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    thesezipperblues:

    itsmemacleod:

    GUYS THIS IS HUGE.

    THIS MEANS THAT IF A SAME-SEX COUPLE LIVES IN A STATE WHERE ITS NOT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A SAME-SEX MARRIAGE THEN THEY CAN GO TO COURT AND A JUDGE WILL HAVE TO DECLARE IT OFFICIAL WITH ALL FEDERAL EFFECTS!

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